'HE TORMENTED
ME FOR YEARS'
The Guardian
by Alex Petridis
Monday November 10, 2003
Eleanor Friedberger looks across the pub table to where
her elder brother, Matt, is explaining his theory about
the music they make together under the name the Fiery
Furnaces. "We'd like to play for little kids and
in old folks' homes," he says, "and play in
nasty bars as well. The music we want to play is more
catholic - it's a big enough mess that whether it's
the old folk or the kids, they could find something
amusing. Hopefully, it is really silly, shiny music.
I want it to have a broken toy sound. And also a piano
singalong thing. I always like the idea of families
entertaining themselves by singing, like every member
of a family has a special song they sing when they get
drunk enough, a Cole Porter song or whatever. That's
fun pop music to me."
As she watches her brother, Eleanor, 27, raises her
eyes and exhales softly. Not for the last time today,
her face arranges itself into an expression pitched
between incredulity and weary resignation. In fact,
she spends a fair percentage of our interview looking
like that. She also has a habit of repeating her brother's
more outré ideas in a deadpan voice, giving the impression
that they rank among the most idiotic things she has
ever heard. "Having a song to sing at family events
when you get drunk," she says, shaking her head.
"Yeah. My song is Tomorrow. From Annie."
Despite the sibling rivalry, the Friedbergers have
come up with what may well be 2003's most surprising
and intriguing debut album. Picked up by British label
Rough Trade - home of the Strokes and the Libertines
- Gallowsbird's Bark was recorded as a demo in just
three days. It was the first time singer and guitarist
Eleanor had ever ventured inside a recording studio.
The album's 16 tracks sound like nothing else - nor
do they sound much like each other. It careers from
skewed psychedelic blues to weird, slightly disturbing
nursery rhymes, bubblegum pop buried beneath layers
of noise and mock folk, occasionally within the space
of one song. It is fantastically exhilarating and exceptionally
odd, even before you get to the lyrics.
Closing track We Got Back the Plague suggests that
a brief outbreak of bubonic plague in New York last
November was divine retaliation for George Bush's increased
majority in the recent mid-term elections. Other songs
deal with Finnish folk historians, faux-hillbillies,
overheard conversations from the insurance office where
Eleanor used to work and her travels around Europe.
As a result, the Fiery Furnaces may be the only New
York-based band in history to have songs about London
Transport's poor tube service (The South Is Only a Home)
and the Greenwich foot tunnel (Leaky Tunnel).
"It all really started when I came back from England
with Matt saying to me, 'So, what was it like?' and
me trying to tell a funny story to amuse him,"
says Eleanor. However, such topics may account for their
album's poor performance back home: "We got a good
review in the Onion and I think a guy in Seattle likes
it," Matt says.
Watching the siblings in the pub, it's difficult to
imagine that they are capable of collaborating on anything.
Multi-instrumentalist Matt, 31, describes their working
process as "me making that frame for Eleanor's
picture to go in. That's how I think of it. How am I
going to support Eleanor's talents or how am I going
to use her to do something interesting?"
He is interrupted by a grim chuckle from the other
side of the table. "That sounds very manipulative.
Doesn't it?"
"It's not meant to sound manipulative," he
protests. "You're the personality of the band.
If it's going to work, it's going to have to take that
into account, both by playing to your strengths and
by making you do something weird for yourself that can
be interesting too."
"I appreciate that very much," says Eleanor,
"but I also see that as Matt pulling strings. It's
my big brother. He tormented me for years. Now he's
saying, 'Oh, I'm doing this for you.'"
Nevertheless, it slowly becomes clear that the two
were fated to make music together. They grew up in Chicago,
the children of an English father and an American mother.
It was Matt who encouraged Eleanor's ambitions by buying
her a guitar and a drum kit. In turn, it was Eleanor
who dispelled Matt's youthful punk ethics: at one time
he was so disgusted by the music industry that he refused
to perform his songs for anybody. "I thought at
the time that trying to get any attention for what you
were doing was kind of gross. It's easier for me to
rationalise making music with my sister, because it's
'Well, I'm helping Eleanor, doing my best.' Eleanor
playing music helped me play music again."
"You see?" asks his sister. "Manipulative,
huh?"
Initially, the two shared a flat in New York while
they were trying to get their musical project off the
ground. This arrangement was not a roaring success,
but gradually the Friedbergers developed their sound
- influenced, they claim, by "Bo Diddley, bad-sounding
psychedelia, sentimental, weeping-in-your-beer ballads
of the '70s like Gilbert O'Sullivan's Alone Again Naturally
and the bad imitations of dub reggae on Sandinista by
the Clash". They also managed to condense their
diverse racket into a live sound that is, as Matt notes
"much more aggro": punchy, avant-garde garage
rock. In addition, Eleanor is a startling and compelling
frontwoman, blessed with a deeply disconcerting stare.
"I thought Eleanor would be very good and interesting
as a singer of a loud rock band," says Matt. "I
thought she would be a tough frontperson, so let's play
aggressively."
Perhaps unsurprisingly, this idea failed to find favour
with Eleanor. "For the longest time, I was completely
embarrassed. I didn't want to be in a loud rock band
as a young woman. I didn't like any women singers. I
identified with men. I didn't know how to go about it.
Then I just decided, whatever comes out, comes out.
I've got this new thing of just trying to look at people
and see how they react."
"No," says Matt. "You've always done
that." He turns to me. "She used to play sports,
so she's used to standing around screaming at people."
Noting his sister's puzzled expression, he shrugs. "No?
Well, what do you think? Is it because I would yell
at you and be mean to you until you weren't scared of
anything?"
And they're off again. "There are," Eleanor
says, perhaps unnecessarily, "some underlying issues
here."
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